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This a fantastic post that I think everyone should read: [link]

It explains inspiration vs imitation in a much clearer and eloquent way than I could ever hope to.

It's aimed more towards design/typography, but most of the points apply to all art.

One of my favourite lines from it is this: "Copy all you wish in private, and once you feel confident in your skills, create your own original public work.".

I understand that copying stuff is a great way to learn, and everyone does or did it at one point in time. Hell I have a box somewhere of terrible Rika + Renamon traceovers/copies that I did over a decade ago. But that was a decade ago and they'll never see the light of the internet (and if they do it'll be with much "LOL LOOK AT THESE AWFUL THINGS I MADE ONCE"). It's not original work, it was practice, it'll never be displayed.

If you're tracing/eyeballing my or anyone's stuff to learn how to draw whatever, okay, but don't post it, because it's not original work. You learned, now do your own thing. Keep that stuff in a box somewhere, and don't let it see the light of the internet. Because most likely, if the people you used as inspiration/practice ever see it, they won't be happy (as I'm sure you've heard a million times from me already, heh).

You might not realize it - looking at reference, figuring "Oh, it's different enough"... I've often, upon catching onto something, been like "Oh, I recognize that pose, the specific way those limbs are arranged, the exact angle/lines of that bird foot (seriously)", and then found exactly what they've referenced without actually having seen the original in a long time. I dunno, does everyone remember their own poses really well or do I just have a good memory? >__>; I draw my poses from my head 99% of the time, the other 1% I'll link to stock or mention I took a photo.

Anyway yeah. I'm not bitching at anyone in particular, I just mostly wanted to share that article (which I found linked on ~bara-chan's Tumblr). Thankfully I haven't had any issues with this stuff lately :heart:
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~XXKitsunaXX Jan 5, 2012  Student Digital Artist
I totally agree on this. That's how I learned to draw out Digimon, trace for practice and then practice on my own. That's how I got good at drawing the Digimon from Digimon Reboot for you. During my GCSE Art and Design coursework, I did stuff about cartoons and did a small comic story, as part of the coursework and my teacher did ask me about where I got the idea from and I told him that I got it from the Digimon comics that I collect and got ideas from that. So far, the Borderlands comic (currently working on atm) is the only proper comic I've ever done.
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That post has some pretty good advice. While learning design I took most of that to heart. Practice makes perfect. But stealing/plagiarizing other peoples work can lead to major trouble, in school you would fail your class for being unoriginal. In the real world you can be sued your ass off. Major consequences. Yup yup.

xuza has a tumblr, this is new to me :3

I have one, too. Been on there about a year now.

I'm theluckymagicrabbit
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*xuza Dec 28, 2011   Digital Artist
Haha, too bad they apparently don't uphold that rule at my school :| I remember some kid a few years below me basically copied poses out of the Kung-Fu Panda artbook and just turned it into a different animal. I don't know if they got in trouble for it, but I doubt they failed thee class...

Added you to my Tumblr~ I'll have to browse your blog when I'm home again and not on limited internets :3
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I remember someone from my university that created a poster for the AIGA (American Institute of Graphic Arts) Portfolio Review several years ago, who clearly imitated a Green Day poster with the hand and bleeding heart. Ironicly, it wasn't noticed at first by the UNF Graphic Design department when it won the local contest, but it was disquailifed when the AIGA took notice and recognized similarities between the two. Cheaters never win. |D

Yay, yay. I'll be sure to follow back. <3 I hope you like my tumblr. It's full of all kinds of artsy inspiration. I mostly reblog artsy stuff, bunnies, cats, disney, my little pony, transformers, etc. etc. c:
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entirely true > >

I'm also pissed at people, who copy everything you do and claim they didn't imitate you ._. they didn't exactly traced your art, but they make designs similar to yours, copy whatever you do (like when you make a pokemon character/story they have to make one too, and then do the same things as you did) >< it's really annoying to have people like that, they have no originality at all!
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*tamayouchi Dec 9, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Some poses just strike you for a really long time and you don't realize it. However, that's usually very rare. At least I think so because my memory is SHOT.

Definitely some great tidbits here. :)
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*xuza Dec 9, 2011   Digital Artist
Plus if you're drawing a pose from a long memory, it's probably not going to look ridiculously similar to wherever it was you saw it :P
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=MoonPhyr Dec 8, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Interesting article and subject.

I pretty much agree with you on this. Everyone who does their own art most likely did the same thing. I know I did. DEFINITELY (I still keep apologizing to the friend I did it to >_> )

I ACTUALLY won't be surprised if they did it to me! To be honest, I won't even be offended. I'll feel honored, actually, since they used someone like me for inspiration/imitation :XD: Although, yeah, I will ask them to take it down |D

But this was an interesting read :D
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~NelaNequin Dec 8, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Well, actually using references is something that also professionals do and where is nothing wrong about it.
At least in Germany at art and design colleges students (should at least be) are taught, how to use reference.
Doesn't mean you should copy. But use references for poses and stuff: There is nothing wrong about it (in Japan there are whole books for the Mangaka to reference from. And that is for practically everything. There are books with all kind pose references, with seifuku references, with monster references, with background references, car references and so on.)
Fun thing is when mangaka acutally sue each other for referencing from one another *lol*
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*xuza Dec 8, 2011   Digital Artist
I never said referencing was bad o_O
How are you supposed to know how to draw something without looking at it?
There's a big blurry line between copying whatever the hell you want and referencing...well, references.
They call them "Reference Books" for a reason lol.
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